Episode 82

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10th May 2025

Animal ForensiCon 2025: Crime Scene Processing with FBI Agent Lauren Regucci

FBI Agent Lauren Regucci discusses the FBI’s 12-step approach to evidence collection and the importance of properly documenting a crime scene.

The 2025 Animal ForensiCon: The Animal Forensic Investigations Conference is a three-day event, offered in Daytona Beach Shores, Florida from May 7th to 9th, 2025. The conference is hosted by the University of Florida’s Veterinary Forensic Sciences Laboratory.

ForensiCon offers workshops and educational sessions on a wide variety of topics pertaining to criminal investigations, law, small animal investigations, equine and livestock investigations, and wildlife crimes. This conference is open to anyone interested in animal forensic investigations. Attendees will also have the opportunity to network with faculty, experts, and investigators

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DrG:

This last presentation was really cool because I gotta say like, you

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know, you, you think about the FBI

and it's like, wow, the FBI, right?

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Um, but here we have Lauren

Regucci, who is an FBI agent.

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So thank you so much for being here.

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Lauren Regucci: Thank you for having me.

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DrG: You talked about something that

is super important for everybody

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that is involved in crime scene

investigations and it's how to do

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the crime scene investigation, right?

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Yes.

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So I guess before we get started, can you

tell us what it is that you do and how it

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relates to the conversation that you said

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Lauren Regucci: today?

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Sure.

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I'm the senior team leader for

the Evidence Response Team for

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the FBI office in Jacksonville.

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We cover 40 counties out of

the 67 counties in Florida.

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And what the Evidence Response Team

is charged with doing is making sure

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that evidence from a crime scene

or from a federal search warrant is

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preserved, packaged, collected in the

most pristine manner that we can so that

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we can maintain its original condition

for the lab or for a court of law.

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DrG: One of the things that you said

that resonated is trying to get everybody

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to do somewhat the same thing, right?

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Like to follow the same processes.

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Yes.

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Which I think that is really

important because then anybody can

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go to a different location, and

everybody's on the same page, right?

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Lauren Regucci: Yes.

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So because we all follow in the FBI,

uh, on the Evidence Response Teams,

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which are in every field office

across the country, since we all

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follow the same 12 step process.

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We are a force multiplier for each other.

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So if there is a 911 type scenario, where

one team is not gonna be able to handle

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all of that, we can call in other offices

from around the country to come assist us

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and we blend seamlessly together because

we all have followed the same process.

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We've all been trained the same way.

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So we know, okay, if we need to

do a sketch, we know everything

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that has to be on that sketch.

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If we need to do photos, we know

all of the different types of

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photos that have to be taken.

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And we can really integrate seamlessly.

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DrG: Can you give an overview of

what this 12 step process is like?

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Lauren Regucci: Sure.

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The 12 step process is basically a thought

process that we try to maintain as we

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go into crime scenes or into scenes that

we're going to be collecting evidence.

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And the way the thought process works

is that you're, you're basically

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following why you're there, what

you're there to look for, and the

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trying to follow the best manner of

collecting that evidence so that it

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can make it to the lab or to court.

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It starts with preparation, which is way

before you even get to the scene where

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you're making sure that you have all the

equipment and supplies that you need.

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It moves on to being able to approach

the scene and get a feel for what

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you're looking at and what you are

expected to do at this particular scene.

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Figuring out how you're going to collect

that evidence, making sure that you

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photograph all of the evidence, making

sure that you sketch the scene, and then

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really making sure that you document

everything in every manner possible.

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Whether it's, again, whether it's

photography or just writing down or

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labeling something before you package it.

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These are all the things that you

need to maintain so that at the end

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of the scene or as you're going to

court, you're able to say, these

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are all the things that we found.

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I know a hundred percent

that this is what was there.

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This is why we found it,

this is why it's relevant.

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This is how we documented it, and we're

using it now as evidence for this crime.

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DrG: I think that's really important

because in, in so many cases, like the,

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somebody sees an item of evidence and

they don't know what it is or how to

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handle it, and then they collect it

improperly, and then it can either be

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thrown out or it just degrades, right?

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Yes.

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Like helping in scenes and they're

like, we collected blood and we put

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it in a plastic bag and it's like, no.

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Right.

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Um, so, you know, there, there

are different ways, and actually I

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believe that the manual that I got

when I was doing my forensic science

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masters was an FBI evidence, uh,

how to collect evidence and how to

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package it and that kind of stuff.

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Mm-hmm.

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So, um, for anybody listening

that wants to learn more about

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this, what resources are there?

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Lauren Regucci: It depends on

where you're coming from in

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wanting to know the, the questions.

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If you're a law enforcement professional,

or you work in, for instance, animal

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abuse crimes, or if you are someone

who is going out to these scenes, or

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for instance, a vet who is taking in

this kind of information, I would say

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reach out to your local FBI office.

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They are going to have an evidence

response team, senior team leader, and ask

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for some guidance on evidence collection.

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If you are a student or you are a

teacher of forensic students, there is

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always an opportunity for you to submit

a request for a senior team leader

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or an evidence response team member

to come out and talk to your folks,

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Just to go through basically what I did

to give them some education on why you

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want to follow the procedures you follow.

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DrG: Do you get a lot of animal

cases or is that kind of rare?

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Lauren Regucci: Um,

I've only had a handful.

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We had a case where we were

investigating a horse doping operation.

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So we, there were no horses

there, but we were investigating

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a situation that involved that.

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I've had animal abuse cases that were

present in a scene with child abuse.

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Um, so that became more of the focus.

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And there were a, a couple scenes

where we've had where, um, we're

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out there for drugs or gangs

and they also have dog fighting.

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And so they have a, a dozen

dogs chained up at the property.

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So, and we have worked with the

local offices in those situations to

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have them come and collect the dog.

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DrG: And I would say, would you say that

regardless if it's an animal case or not,

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everything kind of needs to be processed

the same way with the, with the difference

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that the animals are life evidence.

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Lauren Regucci: yes, a hundred percent.

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I mean, you know, you have, if we

have a room that we're photographing

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and we're trying to get every aspect

of this room that we're sitting

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in and we're documenting all of

that, you can do the same thing.

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So if you have.

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Uh, you know, a dog in front of you,

you're going to photograph all the

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different sides of the dog, under the

dog and so forth to get the, a complete

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picture of what that dog looks like.

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You can also do a sketch of the dog and

say, you know, he's got a burn mark here.

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He's got a bullet hole here,

or whatever the case may be.

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Um, so that you're, you're documenting

all of that information on the dog and

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you really can't over document something.

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It might seem like it's overkill,

like, well, we have the photos.

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Why would we need to sketch this out?

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But.

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It might be, it might prove something

relevant to you down the road

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that you don't know at the time.

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DrG: Well, this is all really

good information and uh, thank you

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so much for being here and thank

you for everything that you do.

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Thank you.

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I appreciate it.

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Michelle González (DrG) was born and raised in Puerto Rico. Her passion growing up was to become a veterinarian. She obtained a B.S. in Zoology at Michigan State University and the Doctor of Veterinary Medicine degree at The Ohio State University, followed by a 1-yr Internship in Medicine, Surgery, Emergency and Critical Care at the University of Missouri-Columbia. In 2006 she founded the Rascal Unit, a mobile clinic offering accesible and affordable sterilization, and wellness services throughout the State of Ohio.
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