The Acatemy with Guest Julia Grosz

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Hi, and welcome to the Animal Welfare Junction.

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This is your host, Dr.

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G, and our music is written

and produced by Mike Sullivan.

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Today's guest is Julia Grosz,

executive director of Cat Hustler.

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Welcome to the Junction.

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Julia Grosz: Hi, thanks for having me.

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DrG: Let's start with letting our

audience know who you are and what

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led you to where you are today.

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Julia Grosz: My name is Julia Grosz,

and I, uh, I'm, I'm a cat lady, man.

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I'm a cat lady, uh, and in true cat

lady and rescuer fashion, I took my

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hyper independence into doing my own

thing, uh, and that, uh, originally

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was writing bios for shelter cats.

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So Cat Hustler started, uh, when I was

a shelter volunteer, uh, in Virginia.

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And, uh, I noticed that these

animals were not getting the social

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media attention that they deserve.

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This was back in 2016, 17, before, um,

in the great before, in the world, before

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things have changed a lot since then.

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And, uh, shelter cat promotion online

is, uh, It's exploded, it's blossomed,

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and I'm not needed there anymore, but

where I realized there was a void to be

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filled was programming for cat rescuers.

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This community is so scattered, and

they don't talk, they don't meet up

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to do anything, and a big part of

getting anything done in any field is

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networking, and cat ladies, oh we like,

we like cats more than people, so we

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don't make time to build relationships.

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And those relationships are the

things that get the job done.

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So I started running networking parties

and symposiums and all kinds of stuff

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that eventually, uh, developed into

the Acatemy, which is a national cat

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rescue conference where hundreds of

cat rescuers from across the country

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get together, make some memories.

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Uh, don't ask each other for anything

and just build their lifesaving network

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and develop their skills to do the

best they can with what they've got.

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DrG: You bring up a great point, um,

about how people need to network, right?

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Because there are, there are so

many different ways of doing things

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and some people have it easier than

others and it's because of their

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experience and education and being

able to have a lot of people together.

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Talking about these things.

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And yes, I'm saying talking, not yelling

at each other and bitching at each

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other about doing it right or wrong.

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But talking to each other about how

things can work can, in the grand

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scheme of things, help everyone.

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So what, what really, so

what, let's talk about this.

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What is the Acatemy?

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Julia Grosz: The Acatemy is a bunch

of cat ladies getting together,

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uh, completely destroying their

social batteries for the year.

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Running around either a hotel or

a convention center in cat ears,

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and just being their biggest,

loudest, most authentic selves

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among people who get them.

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We have, this year I

think we have 37 sessions.

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Because we've been incorporated the

United States Alliance conference as well.

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We have that live streaming in

one of the rooms because the

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schedule is perfectly overlapped.

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And that just seemed like too, uh, good

of an opportunity to not collaborate on.

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Uh, but we offer sessions on

professional development, like

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how to work with the public.

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We have a hostage negotiator coming in

to help cat rescuers deal with angry

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colony caretakers, that kind of stuff.

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Uh, we have people talking about

fundraising because while cat

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rescuers and the people in charge

of these organizations have huge

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hearts, they The business sense

doesn't always come with that.

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So we want to help equip people

to do better, uh, and make smarter

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moves for their organizations,

which are in essence a business.

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We have someone doing a TikTok 101 talk.

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So that we can get all these, uh,

not technophobes, but people who

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are generationally, generationally

not in touch with the technology.

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We can demystify things and help

get their cats onto different

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platforms and reach other audiences.

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Uh, so it's about

professional development.

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It's about personal development.

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We have a local grief counselor

who's joining us because we've

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We've been through a lot, like

this line of work is heartbreaking

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and heavy and really intense.

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Uh, on top of that, the past

four years, if anybody says

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they're okay, I don't trust them.

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Uh, and a lot of our attendees

are of a certain demographic and

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they're starting to have to take

care of their parents and there's

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grief and stuff involved with that.

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And.

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The people who come to the

Acatemy are making time for

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themselves and their cause.

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And I want to be able to give

them an opportunity to take

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care of their whole selves.

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Uh, and that involves, I gave, I had this

room designated as my screaming room.

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This grief counselor popped up

and she's like, Hey, I'm like,

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Oh yeah, no, take that room.

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It's fine.

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So we're doing on demand grief

counseling appointments because I

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love the cat rescuers and they're

my people and I want them to be

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able to come out of this weekend.

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feeling loved and like their work

matters and that they matter.

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DrG: And this is happening, uh,

what is it, October 12th and 13th in

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Cleveland, Ohio at the IX Expo Center.

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So anybody listening, if this is

before October 12th and 13th, uh,

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2024, please plan on being there.

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Because it's going to be,

it's going to be great.

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Now, as we, as we invite people,

who is, who is your target audience?

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Who are the people that attended,

you know, these conferences?

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Are we talking about

like average lay people?

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Is this veterinarians?

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Is this people in shelter?

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Like who, who makes up

the audience for this?

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Julia Grosz: Historically,

we've been a lot of, uh, board

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members for smaller nonprofits.

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We've got shelter workers, we've

got shelter administrators.

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Um, there are plenty of conferences for

shelter, uh, and animal control folks,

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and a lot of veterinary conferences out

there, but nothing until the Acatemy

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has served exclusively cat rescuers.

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Our programming is designed for boots

on the ground folks, uh, freelancers,

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things that the average person can

take away from sessions and implement,

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whether they're, uh, a standalone foster,

or if they're with an organization,

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there's something for everyone.

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So this year we have, uh, we're

incorporating Kitten College.

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Uh, National Kitten College,

which is a program that started

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in Arlington, Arlington, Virginia.

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And they will be offering CE credits.

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They work with veterinary colleges,

uh, with neonatal kitten care.

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So you can get CE credits, even, uh,

as a vet tech, anything like that.

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For vets, there is Uh, a lot of content

in the United Spay Alliance, uh,

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conference that, uh, wet lab stuff,

a bunch of things I don't understand

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because I'm a geologist by day, this

is not my language, but it seems cool.

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It seems relevant and cool.

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Uh, so we'll have that streaming

all weekend as, uh, it's included

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in your Acatemy registration.

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So you've got three conferences in one.

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DrG: And what is, what

is the cost to attend?

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Julia Grosz: We've got one day

registrations for 55 or 45.

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A weekend is 85.

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Uh, and for my alums, the people

who have been to the past couple of

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conferences, I offer significant discounts

because we're all in it to win it.

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Uh, the organizations that are bringing

three or more people get 25 percent off.

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And if you do five or more people

on one code, I will give you a free

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registration to share with a donor or a

star volunteer or whomever you'd like.

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DrG: So how can our listeners sign up?

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Like, how can they register,

uh, online ahead of time, or

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can they register on site?

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Julia Grosz: Strongly prefer registering

in advance, that way we can print your

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conference badge ahead of time and

you can pick up at our Friday night

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mixer because networking is everything.

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You can register at theAcatemy.

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org

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DrG: And that is the acat C

A T A C A T O M E dot org.

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I don't want people just typing Academy.

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Uh, so the Acatemy dot org.

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Check it, check it out.

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I mean, I, I think that the lineup

of speakers that you have is amazing.

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Uh, and I, you know, some of these

people are people that I have

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done conferences with in the past.

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So I really respect the, their knowledge

and what they bring about with cats.

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I'm gonna give a shout

out to some of my faves.

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Uh, Tabitha Kucera, who

is amazing at behavior.

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We're BFFs.

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Um, and then we have Monica Tarrant

with GiveEm10, and, you know,

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their, their slogan with it's hip

to be snipped and, and the cat.

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I mean, I love the cat.

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Every time I see the cat, I

want to photo up with the cat.

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So I hope, I'm hoping the cat is there.

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Um, and then Stacey LeBaron, you

know, with Community Cats Podcast.

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Like she has so much information

and she's done so much.

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So this is an amazing lineup

of people that you have here.

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What can you tell us about some

of the other, some of the other

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individuals that, or some of the other

presenters that you have coming in?

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Julia Grosz: Well, we have Arden Moore,

who is just one of the warmest and

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most wonderful people you've ever met.

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She is doing a cat first aid

and CPR class on Sunday morning.

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It's a separate registration within the

Acatemy since she's a paid instructor.

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But these certifications, she'll

print you out a certification and

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like let you bandage her, uh, her

safety cat, who'll be around with her.

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She's amazing.

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We've got

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Missy Pruitt, uh, out of Arizona, who's

going to be talking about, uh, How to

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reach gen alpha kids and recruit the

next generation of cat rescuers and

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cat advocates, because, uh, everybody

knows everybody who's paying even a

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little bit of attention knows that cat

rescuers, the backbone of this niche

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group, we're aging out of it and we

need to be able to pass the torch.

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So that's going to be

a very important one.

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You are doing 10 things, uh, your low

cost spay and neuter vet wants you to

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And I think that is just the coolest.

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I think that's amazing because I

have seen, I think everybody has

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seen, especially your listeners,

these TNR groups burn the bridge

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and piss on the ashes at these high

intensity, high volume clinics.

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And that is, it doesn't

have to be like that.

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I'm looking forward to hearing what

you have to say about making that not

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DrG: It's going to be welcome to my rant.

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This is my, my little rant on how to

not piss me off because yeah, they need

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to hear it because as veterinarians,

we go into this profession to help

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animals and then we get people that get

in our face and say, you don't care.

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And that's the last, last thing that you

can say to somebody to make them help you.

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It makes them not want to help you.

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So I'm hoping that I can, you know,

not everybody's going to agree

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with what I say and that's okay.

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That's okay.

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But, it's, it's just how to approach

veterinarians so that you can help

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the animals that you're helping.

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You can't do it alone.

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So, here, here are some

tips to, to stay in it.

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Julia Grosz: And they only hear

these things when it's too late.

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So I think you're going to have

a full room of people who want

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to hear how to not fuck this up.

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DrG: Yeah, right?

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Yeah.

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Julia Grosz: I actually ran a

contest within one of the regional

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TNR groups out here in Virginia.

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What should this talk be called?

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If there were no filter,

what would it be called?

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I think one of them was, uh, I'm

not coming back if Brenda's here.

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Don't laugh.

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I don't know who Brenda

is, but there's always one.

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Just ruins it for everybody.

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DrG: So I see that you have a topic of

neurodivergence as an asset in rescue,

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and I've been hearing more about that.

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So what's, what's that about?

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I see that the, that the talk is

called fostering with a spicy brain.

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I love that.

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What, what, what does that mean?

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Julia Grosz: This is something that

has come up for a lot of people in,

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sorry, women specifically, in cat rescue

over the past few years as the changes

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to the DSM criteria have changed, as

we've, a lot of us have learned, Oh!

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I'm neurodivergent.

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Like all these things that made my

life difficult before, um, turns

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out those are checkboxes for ADHD

and autism and all these things that

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girls weren't tested for in the past

because the criteria was based on boys.

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Uh, back in my day it was called Stop It.

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And a lot of people are learning that

there's nothing really wrong with them.

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They're just trying to run

Windows on a Mac system.

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So a talk like this helps people

understand how to relate to the

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world around them, how to put

in systems that work for you and

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the way that your brain works.

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There's nothing wrong with you.

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You're just trying to, you're just trying

to run on a different operating system.

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And there are practices that you can

put into place and perspectives that

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you can change to make better decisions.

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Life and the whole world's a lot easier.

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DrG: And who's doing the, who, who did

you pick to give this presentation?

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Julia Grosz: Uh, Patty Hinko is, I

believe she's a middle school teacher,

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and she deals with these feral ass kids.

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And she has a very, very good grip

on this stuff, and she herself is

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of the spicy persuasion, and we,

we like learning things from people

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who intimately understand them.

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We also have Samantha Stevens from

the Blind Cat Sanctuary, who's going

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to be talking about how to use live

streams on social media to connect

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with your donors and community.

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I've been following Blind Cat

Sanctuary for It feels like a decade.

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They do scheduled live

streams of their facilities.

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They kind of demystify what's involved

with cat sanctuaries, um, which is

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a wonderful thing because I have

terrible experiences with them.

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A lot of cat rescuers have, and

they're realizing that sanctuary

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is often, too often, a euphemism

for a hoarding situation.

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But they are doing a talk on

transparency and relating to donors.

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They do, I believe they do two or three

live streams a day touring their facility

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and introducing people to the cats.

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And it involves a level of comfort

with the technology and live

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speaking and, uh, transparency that

I think a lot of cat rescuers could

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benefit from, even if they're just

introducing their own fosters, if

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they're working in shelters and want

to get the word out to the public.

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I think it's going to be a very,

very valuable session for people.

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DrG: And I see something that I

can personally benefit from is

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you have about navigating cat

introductions with confidence,

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like multi-cat household success.

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I may need to sit in on that one

because my cats hate each other.

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Um, and I, and I did, and I followed

all the steps, and I did everything

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right, and I guess they haven't

killed each other, so that's good.

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But, but it is, it is something really

important, like people don't understand

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that, that cats are, how cats are and

how to introduce another cat and when

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you bring a new cat or anything else

into the home or you move their litter

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box one inch to the right their whole

life changes right like they they just

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like stress out over nothing and and they

start doing stupid stuff and then we think

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that they're just getting back at us and

realistically we are messing with them.

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So I think that it is great having

something about how to safely

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introduce cats, how to do it properly

so that you don't, you don't put

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yourself behind the 8-ball, right?

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Julia Grosz: Laura is wonderful.

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Laura usually works with the public.

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She is a, uh, she does private

consultation out here in Baltimore.

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And.

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She submitted this talk.

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It was off of a, you know, the

speakers will give you a menu of

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here are my pre made talks and the

Acatemy doesn't roll like that.

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We have a very specific audience

and it's easy to speak down to this

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audience because we're, we're seasoned.

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We know what we're doing.

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We've been around for a bit.

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And as, as a vet, I'm sure you

have plenty of experiences with

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rescuers knowing everything.

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DrG: You know, a lot of, a lot

of rescuers and people that

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do TNR and stuff are these.

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older people that have been doing

it for years and years and years.

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And I'm using older in the

nicest form of the word.

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I don't want people like

bashing me like I'm older.

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So, but you have individuals that

have been doing this for 20, 30

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years, and, and they have experience,

but they don't know everything, but

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they think they know everything.

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And you have a lot of veterinarians and

newer people trying to start things.

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And there's a lot of you're

doing it wrong, and you

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don't know what you're doing.

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And And trying to push people away when

we need to, you know, bring them in.

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Julia Grosz: Exactly.

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Uh, so when my speakers approach

me with a, a proposal, sometimes

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I'll ask them to tune it.

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Like assume that these people already

know the 101 stuff, maybe even 201.

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So all the Acatemy content is masterclass.

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Laura did an amazing job in tuning

her menu presentation to people like

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you and I, who we've tried everything.

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We know these things.

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It's like.

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Okay, what next?

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Give us master class content.

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And she has done an

amazing job of doing that.

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She is bringing her, not Padawan,

what's the word I'm looking for?

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Uh, protege?

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Okay.

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She's bringing her protege,

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Mary Stevens, who has been a vet tech

for 18 years, and she is going to teach

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us how to do stress, sorry, low stress,

Not stress free, can't stop that.

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The stress free medication for, I'm

gonna need you to help me with the, the

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terminology here, uh, eyes, ears, oral,

um, topical, uh, just how to, just,

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uh, give medication in various formats

so that people will pill their cats.

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And also how to reduce the stress

of TNR clinics on the cats.

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DrG: That, that is super important because

one of the things, and I don't want to

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give up what I'm talking about in the

presentation, because I want people to

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come in and listen to it, but there are

people that set their cats up for failure.

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And yeah, it's only a day, but it's

like the most horrible day of their

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life when it's not done right.

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Like it doesn't have to be.

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So there are things that we can do

to make, to make cats lives easier.

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And it makes the cats less

stressed, and then it makes the

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veterinary team less stressed.

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Julia Grosz: So there's a, she's going

to be covering a lot of in suite stuff

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to help reduce the stress of those

visits, as well as stuff at home so that

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the, the fosters who are getting these

cats adopted can help the adopters.

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Medicaid more easily at home.

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I saw a video in the presentation

about uh, administering

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injections, which is super helpful.

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Uh, because I, I had a lot of anxiety

about that when I first, when I did

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administering subcute fluids and all that.

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Uh, and I'm hoping that it'll help

maybe diabetic cats get adopted.

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If we demystify it a little bit.

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DrG: And I see for the, for the bigger

or more organized groups, you have

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Danielle Bays from the HSUS talking

about how to basically figure out if

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your efforts are making a difference.

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And I think that that's so important

because when you go to a legislator or

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even to city council and you want to

propose a TNR program, you can't just show

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up, you know, Looking like a cat lady.

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I'm sorry, cat ladies.

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Tone it down a little bit, uh,

but you got to know how to show

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up, how to speak to these people.

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And then you have to have numbers.

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You can't just say, well, it just is.

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So I think that that, that is a really

interesting topic that you're bringing in.

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Julia Grosz: This Danielle is uniquely

qualified to do this, and it is

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such a privilege to have her agree.

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Um, back, I think it was 2020 when

they were doing the DC cat count.

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Around here was a huge, huge deal, uh,

because as you know, getting the metrics

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for these things is, um, brutal, and no

one really knows how to go about doing it,

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and HSUS, it takes an organization like

HSUS putting money and trained personnel

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behind it to make it happen, and I'm

hoping that the model they've created

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can transfer to smaller communities.

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She's going to be sharing

information about data collection.

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Uh, how to present it, a little bit of

statistics, but I think it's critical that

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TNR groups, local TNR groups understand

these things, because without the numbers,

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you're just sitting there screaming at

the cat hunters in town hall meetings.

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DrG: Yeah.

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Oh, and I can't, I can't.

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even with myself.

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I forgot to give a shout out to Dr.

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Lee Schrader because she is

the co rep with me for Humane

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Society Veterinary Alliance.

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So sorry, Dr.

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Schrader, if you're listening

to this, I love you.

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You're awesome.

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And, uh, and yeah, big shout out.

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She's going to be talking about donor

engagement, recognition and retention

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and animal rescue, which is so important.

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Like we can't do what we do without help,

without funds, without assistance, and

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how we keep these people happy, right?

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Julia Grosz: Dr.

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Schrader, I was lucky enough to get her

on Zoom for an hour, and she is a gift.

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Dr.

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Schrader is just a spectacular,

warm, Delightful person.

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And, uh, she has such great insights

on how to make donors feel special

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and wanted, and she understands the

boundaries of what you can and can't

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talk about in written communications

when you're asking for help, it's going

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to be a really, really good session.

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DrG: Yes, she is an amazing human being.

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Um, and she's been doing this for

so long and people don't realize

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she, she's a diplomat of the college

of internal medicine, veterinary

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college of internal medicine.

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Like she is not.

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Like your, your run of the mill

veterinarian, this is an internist

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and she knows so much and she has

so much experience and she's putting

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all of this time and effort into

running, like as executive director

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of the Fayette County Humane Society.

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And it, yeah, she,

she's an amazing person.

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So definitely, I recommend

that people come to, to see

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what she has to talk about.

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Julia Grosz: Oh, we also have,

uh, Von Young, who is a longtime

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friend from here in Virginia.

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She'll be doing a session on

how to run a kitten cafe pop up.

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So all the legalities involved,

all the health code stuff.

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For people who want to, I've always

thought about opening a cat cafe.

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It's kind of a dip your toes in

the water for fun and maybe profit.

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It'll be a cool one.

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Von is, uh, an exceptionally

creative and wonderful person.

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I'm very excited for

the Iowans to meet her.

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DrG: And, and I guess finally,

like, uh, who is this cowboy that's

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teaching people about trapping cats?

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Julia Grosz: Uh, Bob, the

cowboy cat wrangler Lynch.

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And.

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Uh, Angelo, the Matt Catter,

what's his last name?

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Rufo.

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I just call him Angelo.

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Uh, these two are out of Philly.

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They're gonna be upstairs at the CFA

show most of the time, but, um, they

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presented at my 2020 conference.

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They were wonderful.

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They did a TNR 101, uh,

with Tomahawk LiveTrap.

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They showed people hands on how

to, uh, to work traps and took the

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intimidation and mystery out of it.

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So this time they're going to be hosting

a roundtable where trappers can come

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in and share their tips and tricks

for different food, do a hands on

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demo and show like rubber band tricks

or whatever it is they do with the

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traps and just give the trappers an

opportunity to learn from each other.

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This is a lot of knowledge and

insight that never gets shared because

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they're never in the same room.

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DrG: Yeah, this is again, this is

like a really amazing lineup of

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speakers that you have put together.

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Um, it's, it's literally everything

and anything that you need to do

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TNR to, to foster cats, to deal with

stuff and then to also to take care

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of yourself because there's a lot

of compassion fatigue happening.

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There are a lot of people leaving rescues.

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There's a lot of problem

with pet overpopulation and

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euthanasia and everything else.

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So we need this.

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We need, we need a place where like

minded people get together, um, You

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know, leave their claws home and

just come in to have a good time.

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And yeah, there are, there

are like meetup events, right?

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Like, uh, the Acatemy After Dark.

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What's that about?

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Julia Grosz: We've got a mixer on

Friday night for the folks who come

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early, pick up your badge, grab a drink,

grab dinner with some new friends.

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We've got our after party

on Saturday night where it's

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going to be 200 cat ladies.

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We're going to do kind of

like a Halloween thing.

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So it'll, because we're

over 30, we're not dead.

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It's, you know.

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You got to make time for that stuff.

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And the same thing, we have

a weekend long egg hunt with

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prizes worth up to, I think, 300?

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So that'll be a good time.

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And on Sunday, we have our

wine down dinner and within our

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conference app, everybody has

the ability to start a meetup.

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So you can find a lunch group,

a special interest lunch group.

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You can organize a breakfast or brunch

for yourself before sessions start.

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You can find lunch buddies.

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It's all about networking.

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We've got the tools built in to handle it.

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DrG: Awesome.

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And then by By signing up for the Acatemy,

as you said, there'll be able to, to

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watch the United Spay Alliance stuff.

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And then there's also the

cat show happening, right?

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Julia Grosz: There is the, uh, CFA or

cat fanciers association show upstairs.

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They're, they are actually the ones that

invited us to join them in Cleveland.

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They are big on rescue inclusivity

and wanted to walk their talk.

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They bought us swag bags.

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They bought us lanyards.

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They've been very good to us.

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Uh, they will have.

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a lot of 101 content upstairs.

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They have their big international show

where Uh, they've got folks flying in from

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all over the world to show their cats.

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But they've also got a lot of

rescue content for the public.

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It's not it's something like what we do.

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There's a little bit of overlap

with our speakers But they've

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got stuff like Nudacris,

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the sphinx cat, is getting married

at two o'clock on Saturday.

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So all gifts that are brought are going

to, I'm sorry, I forgot the beneficiary

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rescue, uh, they've got exhibiting

rescues with adoptable animals.

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They've got, um, a cat daddy panel.

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They have, they got all kinds of stuff.

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You can find it on their website, uh, cfa.

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org slash expo.

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DrG: So yeah, I mean, this is,

this is an awesome weekend.

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If you're a cat person, just, just stop.

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Just attend, just do it.

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Um, and, and again, is

the Acatemy A C A T e.

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M.

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Y.

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Acatemy dot org.

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Um, to sign up to get information.

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You can go to the animal welfare junction

facebook page because we're gonna

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have the information there as well.

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The links and everything else.

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Um, and yeah, this is,

this is just amazing.

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I mean, I guess, I guess I

gotta say first, thank you

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for putting this together.

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Uh, second, thank you for including me.

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Um, I know you had no idea who

I was and what you were getting

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into asking me to be part of this.

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So thank you for, for including me

and having me, uh, share information

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with, with these people that that

are working so hard to help cats.

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And I'm so, so glad that

this exists to help them out.

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Julia Grosz: And thank you

for lending the Rascal unit.

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That's going to be parked outside all

weekend so the public can check it out.

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I think that's right.

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It's a beautiful thing that people

are going to see that there are

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accessible services out there.

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And there are people who.

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Care enough to bring the help to them.

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DrG: Yeah.

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As long as we don't piss us off.

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Right.

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So check out the truck, see what

we do, see what we offer, and then

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learn how to, how to keep us coming.

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So is there anything that we,

that we forgot to mention anything

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else that you wanted to say?

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.

Julia Grosz: I'm super proud of all my speakers.

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I'm proud of what we've built and

what we're going to keep building.

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And I hope that the Ohioans

find a lot of use in this.

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DrG: So yeah, thank you

Julia so much for being here.

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Uh, thank you for, for doing this

and for everybody who's listening.

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I hope to see you there.

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And as always, thank you for

listening and thank you for caring.

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Thank you for having me.